tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post283757203048912414..comments2023-12-12T11:39:43.504+01:00Comments on Blurb from the Burbs: MedicatedMoohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08609190990579743429noreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-9242973297627716082012-03-07T07:45:52.437+01:002012-03-07T07:45:52.437+01:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-56762466046097533562010-06-08T23:37:48.445+02:002010-06-08T23:37:48.445+02:00Man at the Pub, anything said anywhere at all is ...Man at the Pub, anything said anywhere at all is open to contradiction. Saying it ON YOUR OWN BLOG doesn't free you. Blogs aren't scripture.R.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04639593801088008224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-44291878805562632312010-06-08T23:26:09.557+02:002010-06-08T23:26:09.557+02:00If he gets dope in jail someone will be paying.
Fo...If he gets dope in jail someone will be paying.<br />Footballers get their money through hard training and effort, I don't care what they do with it.R.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04639593801088008224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-43193952422085874012010-06-08T21:27:42.739+02:002010-06-08T21:27:42.739+02:00The problem with these stories is that they are ro...The problem with these stories is that they are romanticised and made heroes out of people who kill!<br /><br />Port Arthur is much more grim and if you read the story based on the prison there (for the term of this natural life) it makes you realise how tough life was and what menial things poor people were sent there for!nuttynotonnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-39793282527325178572010-06-08T06:45:14.382+02:002010-06-08T06:45:14.382+02:00You are right RH, he is in jail because he steals ...You are right RH, he is in jail because he steals things - to pay for his drug addiction. Pity he isn't a good looking, overpaid footballer who can afford his drugs and therefore avoid jail. <br />Sadly though the lesson he has learned is that in jail he doesn't need to steal to get his drugs.Vanessahttp://www.vanessawith3.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-59069270792511792582010-06-08T06:28:37.454+02:002010-06-08T06:28:37.454+02:00A Ned Kelly mousepad! Awesome! I've only got a...A Ned Kelly mousepad! Awesome! I've only got a lousy, half-full Ned Kelly snowdome. Sounds like the giftshop at the old Gaol got classy.<br /><br />I love the Kelly story, and I love how we love it, though I'm not entirely sure why. Perhaps he is Australia's original bogan, so he endures.<br /><br />And I love the tacky, awful 'Kellyana", the tea towels, stubby holders, etc. I don't want any of it in my house, but in my garage, right next to my calendar of a chimpanzee on a surfboard... <br /><br />But I agree with Anonymous. How dare you have an opinion about something! And on your own blog and everything. Sheesh! Though I'm sure Ned himself would passionately support plans to get rid of the place.Cinema Minimahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00393403989921214855noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-33654460821594368242010-06-08T05:43:35.473+02:002010-06-08T05:43:35.473+02:00It's Redcap - it's been so long since I bl...It's Redcap - it's been so long since I blogged that I can't remember my password :(<br /><br />I thought the same when I was there last year. The woman doing the Ned show just about drove me insane - and I didn't even sit down to watch it. She had a voice that could have stripped paint! I hate those bloody historical performances.<br /><br />And if anyone's in any doubt that Ned Kelly was completely mad, just read the Jerilderee Letter. Barking :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-15628008507876293702010-06-07T08:33:09.026+02:002010-06-07T08:33:09.026+02:00I've never been in Melbourne Gaol (Margo's...I've never been in Melbourne Gaol (Margo's uncle did stone work there a couple of weeks ago) but I'll admit to being partial to the Ned Kelly story.Benjamin Solahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10657105522335752577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-78278433328785142572010-06-07T07:14:00.554+02:002010-06-07T07:14:00.554+02:00Of course jails are sad places, what else would th...Of course jails are sad places, what else would they be? Your brother wouldn't be there for his addiction to drugs, it would be for what he did to get them. <br />Jails become tourist attractions because the general public have a morbid interest. Unfortunately the oldest part of Pentridge: C Division, was demolished a few years before the jail itself closed. Young blokes were sometimes put there as a final lesson the night before their release. The little brick cells had no sewage and no lighting, every night you got a stub of candle and a bucket to shit in. <br />Well there's always been a similarity between jails and asylums. G Division held psychiatric patients right up until Pentridge closed. <br /><br />All souvenirs are tacky. Worthless, unless there's some sentimental attachment. I've got a tiny pink-coloured ceramic pig that my daughter staged an enormous tantrum to get at Sydney's Central Station twenty years ago. I've kept it because I'm sentimental. She's not like me.R.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04639593801088008224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-60194302597698150292010-06-07T05:11:47.238+02:002010-06-07T05:11:47.238+02:00Vanessa I wonder how many people thought the same ...Vanessa I wonder how many people thought the same thing in 1910 and 1810?<br /><br />On our Tassie trip earlier this year, it was pretty sobering to visit Port Arthur - not the least because the 'asylum' part in the latter years held more 'free' men who were utterly broken and damaged than the actual prison held convicts.Kath Locketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677312773827236567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-85635056181685630772010-06-07T04:40:43.462+02:002010-06-07T04:40:43.462+02:00Oooh fiesty reactions Kath. I am with you, I can&#...Oooh fiesty reactions Kath. I am with you, I can't ever understand why we have to have the tacky souvenirs.<br />My perspective of jails is one of extreme sadness as my brother has been institutionalised in the system since he turned 18. For nine years his addiction to drugs has seen him live most of his adult life behind bars. I couldn't bear to think that in the future the jail he resides in would be a tourist destination.Vanessahttp://www.vanessawith3.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-42312722996785649532010-06-07T04:19:54.124+02:002010-06-07T04:19:54.124+02:00I haven't seen it, but Ma Kelly's performa...I haven't seen it, but Ma Kelly's performance sounds ridiculous.<br />If ALL proceeds from the gift shop go on upkeep it's okay. Tacky commerce otherwise.R.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04639593801088008224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-50936317397952487222010-06-07T03:00:11.616+02:002010-06-07T03:00:11.616+02:00Wow, you opened a can of Kelly worms (maybe they s...Wow, you opened a can of Kelly worms (maybe they sell these at the gift shop too!).Jillynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-37682666003597887402010-06-07T00:33:09.917+02:002010-06-07T00:33:09.917+02:00Maybe I should add something else here, just so An...Maybe I should add something else here, just so Anonymous can rest easy - the Melbourne Gaol should of course stay as it is and the history inside it - and the displays - *and* Mrs Kelly's performance - are all important.<br /><br />Just GET RID of the awful Ned Kelly souvenirs!Kath Locketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677312773827236567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-5622836459287993142010-06-07T00:32:17.661+02:002010-06-07T00:32:17.661+02:00A brave woman who berates Ned Kelly - and I can...A brave woman who berates Ned Kelly - and I can't agree with you more on most points. I walk by the jail between offices regularly and it give me the creeps just walking past.<br /><br />I went to Richmond Jail, just outside Hobart a few year ago - I can never shake the feeling of despair I felt there - but there was no hype, no snow domes, no death masks. The scale back nature of the place only added to the inhumanity. Incredible to see what was done in the name of "rehabilitation" back then.<br /><br />One of the joys of being Australian - you have to question why a hell of a lot. Great post.Pandora Behrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17582255671962095503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-73306153552994559512010-06-06T23:58:01.487+02:002010-06-06T23:58:01.487+02:00Anonymous, dearest lovey sweetie - we were joking,...Anonymous, dearest lovey sweetie - we were joking, honey bun. Joking, okay?<br /><br />...and how brave of you to mention our names in your comment but not your own!Kath Locketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677312773827236567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-66400462084213930292010-06-06T16:41:56.602+02:002010-06-06T16:41:56.602+02:00I once appeared at the old courthouse for a perfor...I once appeared at the old courthouse for a performance in front of Mr John Dugan SM. He hit me with a fine, which I still consider a bargain. <br />Dugan was an unusual magistrate: enormously good-humoured, he'd listen to evidence the way people listen to a joke, always on the the verge of laughter. <br />He was a good bloke, really. A good example. Not all officialdom is shit.<br />Many of the police in Ned Kelly's day were ex-convicts. Knuckleheads who'd been kicked around themselves. <br />Turning the old jail into dopey apa-a-a-artments would be no surprise, cafe fiends all around Melbourne want to live in poor areas where life was misery. It gives them a thrill.<br />They can never properly hide their contempt for the poor and uneducated. It always comes out.R.H.https://www.blogger.com/profile/04639593801088008224noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-16636692062575073912010-06-06T13:37:41.228+02:002010-06-06T13:37:41.228+02:00One of my daughters worked in the old Melbourne ja...One of my daughters worked in the old Melbourne jail for a student job. She said the place was creepy. She did not tell me about the Ned Kelly performances, but she would not have been impressed. <br /><br />We still have her National trust jacket. Another bit of memorabilia of sorts.<br /><br />Like you I can't stand the mass production of fake heroes and their accompanying junk. It's all too much like MacDonalds.Elisabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04015624747225433940noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-85160772395064467502010-06-06T13:27:30.519+02:002010-06-06T13:27:30.519+02:00River,
YOu must have smacked your children a fair ...River,<br />YOu must have smacked your children a fair bit then.<br /><br />Interview with Ned Kelly in Beechworth Prison, The Age, August 9, 1880.<br /><br /><br />"If my life teaches the public that men are made mad by bad treatment, and if the police are taught that they may not exasperate to madness men they persecute and ill treat, my life will not be entirely thrown away."drbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-51644585097916541042010-06-06T11:30:06.547+02:002010-06-06T11:30:06.547+02:00The way this reads, you'd think Ned Kelly'...The way this reads, you'd think Ned Kelly's mum was the only woman ever widowed with eight children to raise. pfft! And this was certainly no excuse for them to become bushrangers. After all, the thousands of other orphans didn't turn to a life of crime. Maybe if Mama Kelly had smacked them upside the head a time or two....or even had them chopping firewood to work off their energy and anger, maybe we'd have a better "hero" to look up to.Riverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14794655013673748992noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-12796606527246432202010-06-06T10:21:31.196+02:002010-06-06T10:21:31.196+02:00Who is your aussie hero then?Who is your aussie hero then?drbnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-82665723797563452122010-06-06T08:45:57.344+02:002010-06-06T08:45:57.344+02:00Or if not apartments, Lorna, then public housing f...Or if not apartments, Lorna, then public housing for singles or dedicated university students :)<br /><br />'UnAustralian' I may be, Baino, then such is life.Kath Locketthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09677312773827236567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-29737930448829894412010-06-06T06:19:05.570+02:002010-06-06T06:19:05.570+02:00I loved Old Melbourne Gaol but it was a similarly ...I loved Old Melbourne Gaol but it was a similarly gloomy day when we went there last earlier this year. Actually the courthouse tour was better, want to feel like a crim? Give that one a burl. C'mon now don't be too harsh, we turn our bushrangers into heroes and celebrate our greatest military defeat with a day off! I think you're being very un Australian.Bainohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14156193098088048637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14994418.post-43023535984883355632010-06-06T05:46:01.471+02:002010-06-06T05:46:01.471+02:00Great post Kath, I gotta get me some of them earri...Great post Kath, I gotta get me some of them earrings eh! I'm with you on the bullshit folklore stuff. I bet it was his mother who suggested using a letter box for a helmut but it was probably so he didn't crack his skull open when he fell of his horse. The sooner we turn this place into apartments the better.Louise Bowershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09195475557282191490noreply@blogger.com